Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt
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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba=40computer.org@dmarc.ietf.org>, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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On 21/10/2021 18:43, Barry Leiba wrote: >> If we think we need more churn in ADs, the solution is some combination >> of finding/grooming more good candidates and making it easier for people >> to serve, so that the nomcom has better candidates to choose from. > > I think this is a really key point: I would rather see us put the > effort into figuring out how to scale the AD job so that more good > people are willing and able to do it. I think that's critical to the > IETF's long-term viability. My hobby horse is to reduce the work that ADs have to do and my sense is that this is going up because I-Ds are arriving in a less than adequate state. I find it hard to judge because it used to be that the e-mails for IESG review did not appear on the WG list but one metric would be how many e-mail are generated at that time. A recent I-D generated 51 e-mail on the WG list as part of IESG review, after a significant number of e-mail on Last Call. For me this says we are asking the IESG to do too much and so making it harder to find AD. The first step to solvng a problem is defining the problem:-) Tom Petch > Barry > > . >
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- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Brian E Carpenter
- RE: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Adrian Farrel
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt John C Klensin
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Jared Mauch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt John Levine
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Keith Moore
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Carsten Bormann
- RE: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Jared Mauch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Joel M. Halpern
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Joel M. Halpern
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Salz, Rich
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Joel M. Halpern
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Michael Richardson
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt tom petch
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Michael StJohns
- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt Barry Leiba
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- Re: I-D Action: draft-rsalz-termlimits-00.txt tom petch
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