Re: Hotel situation

[Warren Kumari <[e-mail]>]

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM Melinda Shore <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> On 12/18/15 8:20 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> > 5: Some set of folk think that planning a meeting and choosing a
> > location is easy.
>
> I doubt anybody thinks it's easy.  I think most of us
> who have a problem with the meeting situation are aware
> that it's quite difficult.
>
> Speaking strictly for myself, my problem with what's been
> going on is that on the one hand we are de facto making meetings
> the center of IETF activity for most participants and yet we're
> not trying to optimize around the effectiveness of the meeting
> space.  I think we possibly could do something around the
> former but I don't think it's likely we will, based on both past
> discussion and the behavior of very many very experienced
> working group chairs (another discussion).  But we've got
> two situations in tension with each other.
>
> I don't think your characterization is correct or reasonable
> and I found your comments a bit dismissive.
>
>
I became frustrated by the fact that there almost always seems to be a
thread where the tone is that the IAOC / meeting selection screwed up, and
that they should be optimizing for Y instead[0].

Meeting locations are always going to be a compromise, involving complex
(and shifting) tradeoffs and constraints. I believe that the IAOC / meeting
selection committee is trying very hard to meet the criteria, and it feels
to me that the tone of these discussions often doesn't give them enough
credit...

I was not intending to be dismissive (nor to imply any any specific person
was in any particular group); my frustration may have caused my to a:
oversimplify and b: word things poorly.

I apologize,
W

[0]: Where Y seems to change.


> Melinda
>
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