Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board

Thierry Moreau <thierry.moreau@connotech.com> Tue, 17 February 2009 16:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board
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Michael Dillon wrote:
> 
> Some of the time, [...]
>          the IETF should ask the FSF to collect their thoughts and write an
> Internet draft that explains why the proposed plan of action is bad, and why the
> IETF should take some other plan of action. That draft can then go to the WG
> and get resolved before a new protocol ever reaches RFC status.
> 

Under the rule that "the IETF will make no determination about the 
validity of any particular IPR claim" (BCP79), the WG chair(s) would 
simply object to discussions about such a draft (apparently no matter 
who authored the draft, but sometimes some IETF participants are more 
equal than others, so I'm not 100% sure).

If you want to change this rule, e.g. "the IETF may collect evidence 
useful to the determination of a particular IPR claim validity and/or 
scope" then you were challenged to come up with a detailed proposal.

My point in this discussion was that the IETF processes are increasingly 
inefficient because *at the participant level*, under the current rules, 
insufficient investigation and analyses are being made. But that's an 
incomplete diagnostic of the current situation, and I have no solution 
to propose.


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