Re: US Travel ban

Toerless Eckert <> Thu, 12 March 2020 03:13 UTC

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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 04:13:15 +0100
From: Toerless Eckert <>
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Subject: Re: US Travel ban
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Thanks for the info

And travellers can probably get double whammy:

Last november? (i think) i had something like 5 flights cancelled on me,
one being a United FRA-SFO because probably of broken machine. This
was a return leg, but even though it as non-refundable, my company
get a refund for that return leg because United cancelled it.

I am not 100% sure though if airlines can try to escape this refund
if the airline doesn't want to and offer a rebooking. I think it may
be a matter of rules of the ticket, aka: not sure what my company got
is a MUST.

The other refund would be due to european passenger rights. United
offered me either the cash EUR 600 or 900 USD in United travel value.
That money according to european law is the right of the
traveller not the entity that has paid for the flight.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:17:10PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> The US has just announced a travel ban from the EU. Travel from the UK is
> not banned yet but expect that to change in the next few days as the
> results come in from the expanded testing regime that was brought in a few
> days back.
> This will almost certainly mean a lot of IETF-ers are now entitled to
> refunds as their US connections are cancelled. And most likely the airlines
> will be getting some sort of government financial support like they did in
> the wake of 9/11.
> Canada has not yet followed suit but it is surely only a matter of days
> before they do. For planning purposes I would assume that there is a
> significant probability international travel is suspended entirely sometime
> next week. So we can probably expect further refund opportunities.