Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management granularity)

[Geoff Mulligan <[e-mail]>]

So then why not consider, London, Paris (not the Concorde Lafayette), Frankfurt, Amsterdam?





On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:

> 
> You said about Prague:
> 
> "...[do] folks who live outside of that region not care about the 
> additional hop of travel to get to it?"
> 
> This gets cited often, and I don't really understand why. There are 
> VERY few European cities that are reachable directly from the US (or 
> Asia for that matter). Most require transiting some kind of major hub 
> (London, Paris, Frankfurt, Amsterdam to name a few). There will always 
> be exceptions, I am sure you can get to Stockholm directly from the US 
> East Coast, but not from the West Coast. I am sure a very large 
> percentage of the IETF attendees from the US went through London or 
> Frankfurt (or a small number of alternatives) to get to Stockholm on 
> the two occasions when we met there.
> 
> Since I travel to Norway on a more or less regular basis, I am used to 
> (and quite happy to) go through Frankfurt or London, it's just a fact 
> of life especially if you factor in the "preferred carrier" (personal 
> or corporate). Prague may be an "extra hop," but depending on 
> schedules you might well get to your destination (hotel) just as 
> quickly as you would for getting from CDG to central Paris or LHR to 
> central London.
> 
> If we restrict European cities to the ones with direct flight 
> connections from other continents, we're really limiting the choices. 
> Let's be a little more realistic and consider actual travel "pain" 
> from the top hubs in Europe, assuming we can't (always) meet in those 
> places.
> 
> I do understand that the extra hop does add some cost, which is why
> I always consider trains as a reasonable alternative, albeit not a
> particularly fast one. For example, the cost for a First Class train
> ticket from Frankfurt to Prague was 98 Euros. I am not suggesting
> that this is always going to be a reasonable alternative, and I am
> worried that the mere mention of "train" on this list may result in
> a flame war, but still...
> 
> Ole
> 
> 
> 
> Ole J. Jacobsen
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