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Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps

william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com> Tue, 04 July 2017 17:33 UTC

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From: william manning <chinese.apricot@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 10:32:58 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Minor editorial change to draft-ietf-dnsop-sutld-ps
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>, IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
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I find Randys line of discussion mirroring my own thoughts.
And to answer your question above, technically, the TLD  org.  is a member
of the IN class, so in the OF class, it is credible to posit the existence
of  a org. TLD.   TLDs are per class... :)

/Wm

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:53 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> > i would offer to put my keyboard where my mouth is.  but i fear that, at
> > the bottom, i would have the unreasonable desire for dns classes to
> > support these kinds of things.  i.e. i don't think we have a clean fix.
> > but it would be nice to document the good with the bad.
>
> That sounds like a solution, not a motivation. That is, you care about the
> problem hypothetically, and have a hypothetical solution. In practice when
> we’ve talked about using dns classes to solve problems that have motivated
> rfc6761 allocations, it hasn’t really helped, because the infrastructure
> required to use them this way is not present, and this isn’t how they were
> originally intended to be used.
>
> For example, is ICANN.org with a different class not a subdomain of the
> .org TLD? Would ICANN not object to us designating it for use by someone
> else?  I suspect yes, and I wouldn’t blame them.
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