Re: [lamps] Last Call: <draft-ietf-lamps-hash-of-root-key-cert-extn-02.txt> (Hash Of Root Key Certificate Extension) to Informational RFC

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Wed, 09 January 2019 22:34 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
CC: LAMPS WG <spasm@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-lamps-hash-of-root-key-cert-extn@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-lamps-hash-of-root-key-cert-extn@ietf.org>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [lamps] Last Call: <draft-ietf-lamps-hash-of-root-key-cert-extn-02.txt> (Hash Of Root Key Certificate Extension) to Informational RFC
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    avoid needing coordination between all relying parties (RPs).  But it
    doesn't cover coordination by the subscribers (e.g. TLS servers) yet,
    which is what the next point was about:

I think this is beyond the scope of the document.

I do not see how it introduces new problems.  It enables some automation of trust store updates, that is all.