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Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-16.txt> (Recommendation on Stable IPv6 Interface Identifiers) to Proposed Standard

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 15 November 2016 19:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-6man-default-iids-16.txt> (Recommendation on Stable IPv6 Interface Identifiers) to Proposed Standard
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Regards
   Brian Carpenter



On 15/11/2016 20:58, Alissa Cooper wrote:
> Hi Lorenzo,
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM, The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org <mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org>> wrote:
>> It formally updates RFC2464, RFC2467,
>>    RFC2470, RFC2491, RFC2492, RFC2497, RFC2590, RFC3146, RFC3572,
>>    RFC4291, RFC4338, RFC4391, RFC5072, and RFC5121.
>>
>> Does this document need to be a formal update to those RFCs? After all the issues were resolved, the only remaining text that references those RFCs is:
>>
>>    In particular,
>>    this document RECOMMENDS that nodes do not generate stable IIDs with
>>    the schemes specified in [RFC2464], [RFC2467], [RFC2470], [RFC2491],
>>    [RFC2492], [RFC2497], [RFC2590], [RFC3146], [RFC3572], [RFC4338],
>>    [RFC4391], [RFC5121], and [RFC5072].
>>
>> Does that require a formal update?
> 
> I think so. If the documents listed were being written from scratch today, I think they would contain the recommendation quoted above. That seems to align with the definition of “Updates” given in RFC 2223.

I agree, fwiw.

> One thing we could do is add a note about why this document updates the documents listed above,

I think the whole point of this draft is exactly that, so what could we add?

> taking the recommendation from https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wilde-updating-rfcs-00 

No, that draft suggests an extra section, which IMHO is just bureaucracy.

   Brian

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