Re: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF

[Kathleen Moriarty <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:30 AM Roman Danyliw <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi!
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> *From:* ietf <[e-mail]> *On Behalf Of * Bron Gondwana
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2021 7:47 AM
> *To:* Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <[e-mail]>
> *Cc:* [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> *Subject:* Re: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF
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> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021, at 23:40, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef wrote:
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> So you have never reached out to us to try to bring any work to the WG,
> and based on attending one meeting and hearing from a few people, you
> formed a strong opinion and declared that "nothing would get done"? that
> seems odd.
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> Based on a few meetings, and having heard from many people.
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> For your information, last year we published 4 RFCs, and we already have 3
> documents with the IESG and more to come.
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> That's good to hear.
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> [Roman] In addition to regular cadence of proposed standard publications
> noted above, I would additionally note that all of these documents came
> with a model behavior of multiple implementations by WGLC – typically 3+.
> The WG has not only managed to steadily complete its work items in the IETF
> but also interest an implementor community to ensure this work is used.
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And way back when I was AD, OAuth was by far the most productive working
group I managed.  They put out what felt like about 3 documents a meeting
for full publication.  I was the AD for 3 years, ending in 2017 when EKR
became an AD.

There was a bit of management as a result of the number of experts and
varying use cases for their environments, but even with that, OAuth was
very productive.  Since your document was 2016, I was likely the AD.  Yes,
the meetings had challenges at times, but we worked through it and things
got done.

Best regards,
Kathleen


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> Regards,
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> Roman
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Best regards,
Kathleen