Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Wed, 16 March 2016 12:31 UTC

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From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:31:28 -0400
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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An internet where to survive on you need an third party anti-ddos service is pretty fundamentally wrong. As much as I love cloudfare, the fact that we need it is something we inside and outside the ietf, should address with haste.

Paul

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> On Mar 16, 2016, at 03:32, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
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>> On 3/16/16 8:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> it is not ours to say what others should and should not read, or to
>> which they should have easier access. to do so is called censorship.
> 
> Nobody's prohibiting access to any of our public documents.  And as
> someone pointed out elsewhere, if one wants to copy every last bit of
> IETF documentation, they are able to do so and provide whatever access
> they wish.  To my knowledge nobody else has raised the concern that that
> the Tor people are raising, and so we are being asked to specifically
> support Tor.  Fine.  That means we then need to consider the
> benefit/harm of our actions regarding who precisely we are helping.  I
> asked that question honestly without an answer, but with concerns.
> 
> Eliot
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>