Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other Things (Was: Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations)

Scott Kitterman <scott@kitterman.com> Fri, 11 March 2016 15:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: Security for the Internet of Things and Other Things (Was: Re: Observations on (non-technical) changes affecting IETF operations)
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Even worse, I'm not sure people who deploy this stuff are even trying:

http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/40505.html

Scott K

On Wednesday, March 09, 2016 05:41:43 PM Livingood, Jason wrote:
> Sure, WiFi security is an issue for IoT. But there are probably much more
> fundamental IoT security issues. IMHO I think one of the largest is the
> lack of a secure & automatic (no end user interaction) software update
> channel.
> 
> - Jason
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/9/16, 9:39 AM, "ietf on behalf of Michael Richardson"
> 
> <ietf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> >Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> wrote:
> >    > I want to add that the security problem for IOT is wider than
> >
> >setting
> >
> >    > up the secure wireless connectivity. I¹m going out on a limb and say
> >    > that that in the networks that I work with, that¹s a largely solved
> >    > problem modulo many non-IOT related updates that are being
> >    > handled.
> >
> >I think the the problem of setting up the "secure" wireless connectivity
> >is
> >largely a distraction, and leads regularly to insecurity.
> >
> >I also think that the networks you speak of are largely vertically
> >integrated.
> >
> >--
> >Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>ca>, Sandelman Software Works
> >
> > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-