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Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 09 April 2008 22:24 UTC

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Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:24:17 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures
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On 2008-04-10 07:04, John C Klensin wrote:
> 
> --On Wednesday, 09 April, 2008 13:50 -0400 Ed Juskevicius
> <edj@nortel.com> wrote:
> 
>> John, you wrote:
>>
>>> Then recommend to the community that the Trust Agreement be
>>> changed.
>> The Trustees are not talking about changing the terms of the
>> Trust Agreement, so this should not be necessary.
> 
> Good.  But I was just trying to suggest, following what I
> thought I saw in Marshall's note, that, if the Trust Agreement
> is defective, one could try to change it.  The other option is
> to conform to it.  Ignoring it and adopting procedures or
> polices inconsistent with it --even if one believes those
> policies will never be triggered-- is a non-starter.
>  
>>> I am worried about the IAOC and/or Trustees adopting
>>> procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement.
>> Me too! It is not the intention of the Trustees to adopt
>> procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement.  
>>  
>>> if anything is going to be said, it needs to be consistent
>>> with the Trust Agreement _and_ reflect the desires and intent
>>> of the community.
>> I agree.
> 
> I think we are in synch.

I agree with the above, and I assure everybody that the intent
was always exactly that. There's definitely an error in the way
the current procedures were drafted; it was my error, and I have
evry confidence that the current Trustees will fix it.

    Brian
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