Re: Bootstrapping the internet (Re: When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a thumb, or Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service)

[Greg Shepherd <[e-mail]>]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:04 AM Jared Mauch <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
> > On Nov 30, 2020, at 12:59 PM, John Levine <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > If you use a batch tool like wget or curl to fetch the text version of
> > an RFC (or any other text file), and look at it in a text editor, it
> > works fine. For that matter, if you use a browser to download a file
> > using a right click and a 'Save Link As' option, that works too.
> >
> > Since web browsers are designed to display HTML we also provide HTML
> > versions of RFCs designed to render well in web browsers.  But you have
> > to pick the right version for the right purpose.
>
> One of the questions I always have is how do you re-bootstrap things
> assuming
> Something really bad happens.
>
> The shift to protocols that a user can’t speak over telnet/netcat really
> bug me
> in this regard.  Yes, I can openssl s_connect assuming I have that on my
> device
> and the TLS police haven’t turned them all off because they’re too weak for
> time(&now).
>
> This is why the discussion really bugs me more than anything else.
>
> - Jared
>

Wise words from a man whom no doubt has painted himself into a corner a
time or two. :)

- Shep