Re: China

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Fri, 08 April 2016 18:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: China
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On 4/8/16 10:10 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> I know that this is going to sound like an excuse and it certainly
> isn't meant to be, we did miss this topic and we should have brought
> it to the community for review. However, the fact that this issue
> has not been "flagged" by sister organizations such as ICANN (4
> meetings in Singapore) and APRICOT (2 meetings) at least suggests
> that it isn't a frequently encountered problem.

Might be a lot more informative to talk to glbt travel specialists.
Why that may not have crossed the mind of the IAOC that this may be a
useful thing to do is left as an exercise, &c.

Melinda