Re: new RRTYPEs, was DNSSEC architecture vs reality

Phillip Hallam-Baker <> Wed, 14 April 2021 19:57 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:57:39 -0400
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Subject: Re: new RRTYPEs, was DNSSEC architecture vs reality
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 3:40 PM Viktor Dukhovni <>

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:48:05PM -0400, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> > The parts I don't like in DNS are the root and the need to rent your
> > name for $10/yr. What if the cost was $0.10 for life?
> Then on a modest budget for many folks on this list, one could buy up
> and squat on the likely most popular 50,000 to 100,000 names.
> So it would seem that either the names are memorable mnemonics, and thus
> some much more valuable than others, or they're less valuable by being
> less usable.  The $0.10 for life does not sound realistic, unless all
> the names are essentially high-entropy random serial numbers.

Well I did predict that nobody would read the draft.

The cost of providing service is less than $0.10

I propose to sell names of 9 characters or more for $0.10, increasing by a
factor of 10x for each character less than 9.

So @a is $10 million, @alice is $1,000, @bob is $100,000 and so on. (or
would be only @alice and @bob are reserved names for examples.) The best
names tend to be shorter names and so the cost would be quite a bit higher
but that is just making sure that we don't leave too much money on the
table while giving people incentive to market Mesh names (and thus the

Yes, this does leave money on the table but I reckon that there Mesh
foundation needs an income of about $10 million /year to do what I want it
to achieve. Running the registry should cost less than a million. The rest
will go to funding open source specs and reference code, funding
conferences, etc. etc.

No, as they put it in the Godfather, I am not a communist. The not for
profit registry is separate from my for-profit Mesh Service Provider and
apps businesses.

The tricky part here will be to make sure that certain names with valid IPR
claims end up in the right place. Obviously, @microsoft, @apple, @cisco
etc. have to go to the right place or there is a security issue. But again,
read the draft.