Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it)

Michael Thomas <> Thu, 15 September 2005 23:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: BitTorrent (Was: Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it)
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Scott W Brim wrote:
> On 09/15/2005 17:09 PM, Paul Hoffman allegedly wrote:
>>At 1:50 PM -0700 9/15/05, Michael Thomas wrote:
>>>Which is pretty much the elephant in the room, I'd say. How
>>>much of the net traffic these days is, essentially, not in
>>>any way standardized, and in fact probably considers ietf
>>>old and in the way?
>>Not sure why this is an elephant; who cares? I have seen numbers that
>>show that a huge percentage of traffic is P2P of various flavors, but I
>>haven't seen anyone saying that this is having any negative effects.
> The metaphor I'm trying to use this week is that the IETF is
> landscapers and we provide a fertile, beautiful area for people to go
> wild and create excellent gardens.  What you're describing is not a
> bug, it's feature.  It means the IETF have done their job.  If there
> were interoperability problems in the fundamental and/or widespread
> technologies being used in the Internet, then there would be a problem
> (we're working on those).  Congratulations.

Perfect. And then someone with less clue decided to
plant Kudzu. We have nothing to say about that?

I know that we aren't the net.cops, but are we not
net.stewards either?

		Mike, asking.

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