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Re: the old fellowship program, was Wow, we're famous

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Fri, 16 April 2021 06:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: the old fellowship program, was Wow, we're famous
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>
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From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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On 15/4/21 11:45, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
[...]
> 
> The best answer I have at this point is that if you're lucky, your
> company will cover travel expenses, but you may have to spend a lot of
> time contributing to "public good projects" (either IETF
> standardization or open source work), effectively on your own time,
> and hopefully that will be an investment in your future career or
> promotion prospects.  It will likely be only "brownie points",
> especially early in your career, but hopefully in the long run, it
> will be part of your own distinctive "brand" as an software engineer.

That depends a lot on where you are based. In many places, career-wise, 
you might be better off getting a networking certification than writing 
a protocol standard -- no matter how good or important the standard is.

-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
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