Re: Weekly curated news stories about IETF-related topics

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Fri, 16 October 2020 20:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: Weekly curated news stories about IETF-related topics
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:54:21 -0700
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To: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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> On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10/15/20 8:46 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> 
>> We constantly have to push back on claims that drafts are IETF standards; it's a bit disturbing when such false claims appear in our own output.
> 
> Or maybe it's useful for IETF participants to have more exposure to how we're (mis-) reported in the media?
> 
> Still, a disclaimer does seem appropriate.

I agree on both points.

Bob