Re: Communications - Re: Ombudsteam update

Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> Mon, 28 January 2019 22:53 UTC

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From: Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net>
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On 1/28/2019 4:56 PM, lloyd.wood=40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org wrote:
> Communicating with Americans is often hard work for non-Americans...


And then there's "Communicating with Americans is often hard work for 
Americans" and  "Communicating with IETF participants is often hard work 
for everyone including IETF participants".

Just saying.

Regardless, colloquial English of both the British and American 
varieties tends to provide loan words into lots of other language and 
cultural contexts.  It's difficult for a English  (both native and 
non-native) speaker to sometimes know where the limits are and to what 
extent they apply to any given person.  I'd like to suggest that we 
don't make too much of this, avoid "words of the week", but not worry 
about terms we (community collectively) have been using for years.  And 
add a sentence to the Tao that suggests "when in doubt, google it or ask 
the speaker"  which I had to do when a recent random encounter with a 
Brit had me googling for the meaning of "have a butcher's" and not 
understanding why he was pointing at a magazine cover.

All technical communities have their own languages - that's just the 
reality.  Learning to become fluent in that language is just the cost of 
doing business.  Staying fluent is also part of the cost (cf the 
discussions on git/github/etc).

Later, Mike