Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Tue, 04 April 2017 21:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 23:56:42 +0200
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Jared, man, read the newspapers.


On 4/4/17 10:46 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 09:42:57PM +0100, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>> Hi Nico,
>>
>> On 04/04/17 21:24, Nico Williams wrote:
>>> My unstated point was that the US border situation is not really
>>> different from anywhere else.
>> I disagree. I think that as of now, of the places in which
>> we're likely to have face-to-face meetings, the uncertainty
>> with respect to rule-changes involved in future US meetings
>> is much higher than other places. Again, that's only in terms
>> of places in which we're likely to meet in the next N years.
>> That's a mega-negative for US-based meetings IMO.
> 	I welcome the data that is being collected vs all the
> armchair responses.
>
> 	This reminds me of the IPv6-only question, there's the
> zero users that were on the IPv6-only ssid in chicago.  This may
> be a real issue, or not.
>
> 	I think the thread can end until the data is reported
> and we can then provide our commentary on that.

How do you gather data when the circumstances are changing day in and
day out?  Here's the latest fun.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/04/trump-extreme-vetting-visitors-to-us-share-contacts-passwords

The implication being that someone could be turned away at the border
based on private political views.

Eliot