Re: [Isms] ISMS charter broken- onus should be on WG to fix it

>>>>> "David" == David B Harrington <ietfdbh@comcast.net> writes:

    David> Hi, As primary editor of the SSH draft (SSHSM), I spoke
    David> with Eliot last week. I agree that it is difficult for him
    David> to develop a reasonable proposal that piggybacks on the SSH
    David> draft, because the SSH draft is so incomplete.

    David> I am not convinced that SNMP needs to add a new call-home
    David> (CH) functionality, nor that this feature is needed in SNMP
    David> now, but there is a danger that CH might never be possible
    David> if we don't consider its impact on the SSHSM model before
    David> SSHSM is cast in stone. If it complicates the SSHSM model,
    David> I would prefer to not include it; a new model could be
    David> developed to replace or supplement the SSHSM model if
    David> demand increases for this functionality.

    David> I recommended to Eliot that he contribute some text for the
    David> SSH document, describing the CH functionality and proposed
    David> elements of procedure, that I could include as an appendix
    David> to the SSHSM document so the WG could review his proposal,
    David> and then the WG could decide whether it should remain as an
    David> appendix, be incorporated into the SSH document, be split
    David> out as a separate document, or be abandoned altogether. I
    David> felt this was a reasonable alternative to making the
    David> decision whether CH is or is not in scope at this time. He
    David> has not yet had a chance to develop the text and send it to
    David> me.

I completely agree that having Eliot and other interested parties work
on how technical details of CH would work for ssh is a good idea.

I also agree that having it be an appendix in the document is fine for
now.

I was hoping that Eliot would go forward in this direction; in my
original message ruling CH out of scope I aske Eliot to work with the
ssh document editor to see how CH might work.

--Sam

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