Re: Describing which behavior is appropriate or not (was: Last Call: <draft-eggert-bcp45bis-06.txt> (IETF Discussion List Charter) to Best Current Practice)

[Lloyd W <[e-mail]>]

> On 31 Oct 2021, at 21:12, Keith Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>> On Oct 31, 2021, at 6:07 AM, Lloyd W <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>>>> On 31 Oct 2021, at 20:10, Keith Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>>> But we have now become so fragmented that it's hard for us to discover new shared values or evolve the old ones.   I used to call this the Tower of Babel effect, but it's much worse now than it was when I first saw it happening in the late 1990s
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>> You have an open git issue on a document, you can work on and resolve it without having to interact with anyone who might decrease your productivity.
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>> Get with the program.
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> I don’t understand what you are trying to say.  


it's an observation on where any IETF list discussion is headed, reinforcing your comment. For example: 

"I think there's a problem in the design described by this document..."

"well, if you have a real issue open a git issue on the document repository. we're not going to discuss technical document issues on this list."

...alluded to in a couple of git-related drafts I wrote.

it's not just siloed in mailing lists, but discussion is now fragmented across document repositories and issue trackers.

that system has no use for generalists or for cross-pollination of ideas.

L.