Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities

tom p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> Tue, 04 April 2017 11:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: IAOC requesting input on (potential) meeting cities
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:20:33 +0100
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---- Original Message -----
From: "Brian E Carpenter" <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
To: <ietf@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 5:23 PM

> On 04/04/2017 03:26, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:59:49AM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> I don't know when I will be refused entry for not handing out
> >> passwords or pins.
> ...
> > Moreover, the ad hoc policies that are in place are used very
> > inconsistently -- at the personal whims of those enforcing them --
> > and are subject to change not only without advance notice,
> > but without any notice of any kind.
> >
> > Because of this, asking anyone to come to the US at this time is
> > equivalent to asking them to incur unknown but possibly very large
> > privacy and security risks, as well the financial risk of losing
> > any/all computing devices they bring with them.
>
> What is specific to the US in all that? Afaik, customs or immigration
> officers have similar rights in many, if not most, countries. And they
> use them from time to time, at random or as a result of profiling.

Fly into the UK from Middle Eastern countries and you are now required
to place any electronic device larger than an iPad into the hold, where
it will not be covered by most insurance policies.  This was introduced
at short notice.

The press reports say that other European countries and Canada are
considering similar restrictions.

I am reminded of the inkjet cartridge bombs of a few years ago.

Tom Petch

> Before you formally enter the country, your rights are limited
> in most cases, not only in the US.
>
>     Brian
>