Re: DMARC from the perspective of the listadmin of a bunch of SMALL community lists (Martin Rex) Thu, 24 April 2014 21:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: DMARC from the perspective of the listadmin of a bunch of SMALL community lists
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Doug Barton wrote:
> What won't help is sitting on the sidelines and whinging that the "DMARC 
> cabal" "doesn't get it" and has to listen to us about how it should 
> conduct their business. Because not only do they clearly not have to do 
> that, they are not doing it.

But that is exactly what happens here, they obviously don't get it at all.

In case you didn't know or realize, what DMARC specifies for p=reject
is actually a real felony crime in Germany (no kidding!), and this may
apply to all over Europe (since the basic idea was spread out all over
europe with a EU directive), unless each individual receipient(!!) has
explicitly opted-in for this to happen.  It should be fairly easy 
to get a cease-and-desist order against European ISPs for blocking
EMail on DMARC p=reject.

It also should stop since it is technically wrong.  It is the tail
trying to wag the dog and some form of company-level bullying.

Get all those stupid MUAs fixed that misrepresent the meaning of rfc5322.From,
and in particular the meaning of rfc5322.From when a rfc5322.Sender is
present in the same message.