Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2119-update-00.txt
Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Wed, 10 August 2016 12:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2119-update-00.txt
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 13:23:57 +0100
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That would be a satisfactory approach. However I suspect that just as IDs still put Network Working Group in the top left corner, so I suspect RFC2119 will be the normal reference used. Stewart On 10/08/2016 13:19, Ted Lemon wrote: > I think the right approach to take with this document is not as an > explicit update to RFC 2119 text, but rather as a Talmudic commentary > on RFC2119. This document should do two things: it should help > readers of old documents who are unclear about what 2119 says, and it > should be available as a document that can be normatively reference by > authors of new documents who want more clarity than RFC2119 provides. > > The document should be explicit that while it updates 2119, documents > that refer only to 2119 and not to this document are not updated: if > this document helps the reader to better understand the context in > which the RFC2119 keywords are used, great, but nothing more than that > is intended. > > For documents that do normatively reference this document and not just > RFC2119, the update is normative. > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Stewart Bryant > <stewart.bryant@gmail.com <mailto:stewart.bryant@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > Having thought a little more about this, I am wondering about > unintended consequences in the 5K documents that we have > written since RFC2119 was published. > > If we effectively change RFC2119 as we propose, is there > a danger that readers will incorrectly interpret old text > with new semantics. T > > I have no idea whether anything of significance will occur > but considering the thought put into terms like SHOULD > there exists a risk that would be mitigated if we picked > a new RFC number whereupon the reader would know > which definition the writers and reviewers were using. > > - Stewart > > >
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John R Levine
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Crocker
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John Levine
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Randall Gellens (IETF)
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Joe Touch
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Gmail
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Crocker
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Pete Resnick
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Joe Touch
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Crocker
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Pete Resnick
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Julian Reschke
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Julian Reschke
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ben Campbell
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… HANSEN, TONY L
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Barry Leiba
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Stewart Bryant
- RE: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Crocker
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John C Klensin
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Doug Ewell
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Cridland
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Time Warner Cable
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John Leslie
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ted Lemon
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Stewart Bryant
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Stewart Bryant
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Stewart Bryant
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Stewart Bryant
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Randy Bush
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Crocker
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Michael Richardson
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Mark Andrews
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John R Levine
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Mark Andrews
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… John Levine
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Joe Touch
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Sam Hartman
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Dave Crocker
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Sam Hartman
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Stephan Wenger
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Barry Leiba
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Ted Hardie
- Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-rfc2… Paul Hoffman