Re: [Ietf-and-github] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-gi t-using-github-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Fri, 13 March 2020 00:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-and-github] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-gi t-using-github-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, ietf@ietf.org
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SM, I have trouble understanding the question you are asking.
During and after the IETF LC, questions were asked about the document. 
Being proactive, the WG (authors and chairs) have been proactive in 
addressing the questions (many from the IESG).  This seems to be not 
only appropriate, but highly desirable.  Given that the WG has been 
copied on the emails about the topics and changes, if the WG objects 
they can speak up.

What is it you are objecting to?
Yours,
Joel

PS: While I have a lot of concerns about the push to use git / github, 
Martin and the WG have been very fair and effective about the process 
they are using, and it fits with IETF process.

On 3/12/2020 7:53 PM, S Moonesamy wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> At 04:25 PM 12-03-2020, Martin Thomson wrote:
>> This is patently false.  The archives of the working group mailing 
>> list clearly show a lot of discussion.  
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf-and-github/
>>
>> The pull requests are proposed resolutions to points raised in review, 
>> but the discussion about those changes is occurring on the mailing list.
> 
> The archives of the working group mailing list shows that there was a 
> discussion during the IESG Evaluation.  Is there a step between the end 
> of the Last Call and the IESG Evaluation where issues are identified?
> 
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy