Re: AD workload [was Re: NomCom 2019 Call for Community Feedback]

Leif Johansson <leifj@mnt.se> Wed, 06 November 2019 08:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: AD workload [was Re: NomCom 2019 Call for Community Feedback]
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On 2019-11-06 04:13, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>    Understand that while the IETF has a huge reputation, there are other standards bodies that are doing this better, and faster, and resulting in bigger improvements to technology. 
>   
> Serious question: please name them, so we can learn from them.
> 
> 

openid foundation comes to mind

for agility its hard to beat the cray^H^H^H^H blockchain identity
people (I'm in no way biased against them) over at the distributed
identity foundation

	Cheers Leif