Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP)
Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com> Tue, 23 June 2009 15:39 UTC
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:39:16 -0400
From: Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com>
To: "Contreras, Jorge" <Jorge.Contreras@wilmerhale.com>
Subject: Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP)
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20:33AM -0400, Contreras, Jorge wrote: > aren't errors caused by hurried or sloppy work by the Trust, they are > reasonable points of disagreement over policy and interpretation. It's > certainly legitimate for you to raise and discuss these points, but you > shouldn't assume that, just because you or Simon have a particular > interpretation, the alternate interpretation embodied in the TLP is a > careless error. That remark suggests to me that John's proposal of iterative work is justified. If there are fundamental disagreements about policy and interpretation, and not just picky details, that are coming out in the short review period allotted, then presumably there are deep disagreements that need to be worked out before the wider IETF can be expected to agree to some policy. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@shinkuro.com Shinkuro, Inc.
- Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provis… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Le… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… John C Klensin
- RE: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Andrew Sullivan
- RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- RE: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Yaakov Stein
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Sam Hartman
- RE: [Trustees] [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Contreras, Jorge
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Robert Elz
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Tom.Petch
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Tom.Petch
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… Simon Josefsson
- RE: [Trustees] [IAB] Proposed Revisions to the IE… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Pr… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revi… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Doug Ewell
- Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… John C Klensin
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Fred Baker
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Trustees] Proposed Revisions to the IETF Tru… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Margaret Wasserman
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Russ Housley
- Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed … Marshall Eubanks