Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages
"J.D. Falk" <jdfalk-lists@cybernothing.org> Wed, 13 July 2011 01:33 UTC
Return-Path: <jdfalk-lists@cybernothing.org>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A478C21F8B33 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zq30--dkPNzX for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ocelope.disgruntled.net (ocelope.disgruntled.net [97.107.131.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AF321F8606 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.11.36] (c-76-126-154-212.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.126.154.212]) (authenticated bits=0) by ocelope.disgruntled.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p6D1XDAo011499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for <ietf@ietf.org>; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:33:15 -0700
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084)
Subject: Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk-lists@cybernothing.org>
In-Reply-To: <p0624064fca428419c7be@loud.pensive.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:33:12 -0700
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <1D49B15C-643F-4D05-92BE-E42A309341CF@cybernothing.org>
References: <CAC4RtVBGgk74VMEty9u5Yq+DFy=oR5tOnbZ3R5x83Gyee6mRNw@mail.gmail.com> <p0624064fca428419c7be@loud.pensive.org>
To: IETF list <ietf@ietf.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084)
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:33:16 -0000
On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > Ever since, I've wondered if these notices were set up by someone who is a lawyer and does understand the situation, or if they were set up by someone who saw others do it, or heard that this sort of thing was needed. The latter seems likely to me as well, but the IETF community is unlikely to convince such people to change their minds. It's certain to be far easier, in this case, to gently encourage participants to use a different email address for their IETF participation. (I do that already -- not because of inappropriate footers, but because Exchange and Outlook are mind-bogglingly poor tools for discussion lists.) -- J.D. Falk the leading purveyor of industry counter-rhetoric solutions
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Confidentiality notices on email messages Barry Leiba
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Jorge Contreras
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Barry Leiba
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Randall Gellens
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages J.D. Falk
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Hector Santos
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Huub van Helvoort
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages John C Klensin
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Michael Richardson
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Confidentiality notices on DNS messages Bert
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Dave Cridland
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Martin Rex
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages John Levine
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages John Levine
- RE: Confidentiality notices on email messages Michel Py
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Michael Richardson
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Dave CROCKER
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Michael Richardson
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Will McAfee
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Joel Jaeggli
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Will McAfee
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Randall Gellens
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages John C Klensin
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Barry Leiba
- RE: Confidentiality notices on email messages Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Olaf Kolkman
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Wes Hardaker
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages David Morris
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages ned+ietf
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Donald Eastlake
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages John Levine
- RE: Confidentiality notices on email messages Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Wes Hardaker
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Richard Kulawiec
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages ned+ietf
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages Harald Alvestrand