Re: Time to kill layer 2
<chopps@chopps.org> Thu, 14 April 2016 14:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: Time to kill layer 2
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Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> writes: > This morning I spent an hour debugging the network to print out two > class projects that were due. Some points: > > 1) My ability to debug the network is better than 99% of the population > 2) The interaction of Bonjour, DHCP and auto power saving is unfortunate > 3) Things should still work after I have been away for a week > 4) If vendors want to be selling all that IoT gear, they have to solve > these issues. > > 5) I want someone to blame. Right now when the network doesn't work, I > don't know who is the cause. I want one point of contact. Whoever is > that point of contact will get most of my networking money. ... > One of the reasons that IP won against OSI was that it was simpler. > Applications ran on top of the IP layer with only TCP inbetween. Of > course these days we do have a Presentation layer, Web Services run on > HTTP. But unlike the OSI presentation layer, ours does not introduce > extra moving parts. The funny thing about mentioning OSI here is that it would probably be very easy indeed to triage your network issue if your hosts were running ES-IS, and your routers IS-IS. You could plug into IS-IS and see everything. :) Thanks, Chris.
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