Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex problems" or alternatively Why IMS is a big fat ugly incomprehensiable protocol
Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Fri, 09 September 2005 18:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex problems" or alternatively Why IMS is a big fat ugly incomprehensiable protocol
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Pekka Nikander wrote: > In a whimsical mood, I put up a web page that tries to > clarify the comments that I made about complexity during > the Paris IETF Thursday plenary. So, for your bed time > enjoyment: > > http://www.tml.tkk.fi/~pnr/FAT/ Pekka this is a outstanding piece of work and I would suggest an alternative thesis that fits your model. "Why IMS is similar to grotesque body fat --- the case for cranial liposuction among IMS engineers" "Compulsive IMS ...how to reckgonise the problem and how to treat it" "Bulimia networka ( aka IMS ) is defined as a period of uncontrolled definition of network elements. The network designer places up to10,000 boxes in an archichectural design . Bulimia networka is commonly associated with excessive attendance at industry conferences and standards bodies ( Stockholm Syndrome ) followed by purging behaviors, i.e., service provider bankruptcy, layoffs, etc. I'm sure we can expand on the model endlessly... > > --Pekka Nikander > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard Shockey, Director - Member of Technical Staff NeuStar Inc. 46000 Center Oak Plaza - Sterling, VA 20166 sip:rshockey(at)iptel.org sip:57141(at)fwd.pulver.com ENUM +87810-13313-31331 PSTN Office +1 571.434.5651 PSTN Mobile +1 703.593.2683 Fax: +1 815.333.1237 <mailto:richard(at)shockey.us> or <mailto:richard.shockey(at)neustar.biz> <http://www.neustar.biz> ; <http://www.enum.org> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- "The IETF has difficulty solving complex problems" Scott W Brim
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- RE: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Pekka Nikander
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Richard Shockey
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Richard Shockey
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Jari Arkko
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Masataka Ohta
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Pekka Nikander
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Pekka Nikander
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Pekka Nikander
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- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: "The IETF has difficulty solving complex prob… Pekka Nikander