Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF

willi uebelherr <willi.uebelherr@riseup.net> Thu, 23 March 2023 03:37 UTC

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Dear Greg and all,

IETF carbon footprint? Why?

Look to the US-Military and his initiated wars all over our planet. Look 
for the footprint of the US-Military and the militar-industrial-complex. 
Then you will find the real footprint.

But also you can look for what you create with this senseless structure 
of that, what you name "Internet".

You know "small is beautyful"? The name Internet comes from "the 
Inter-connection of local Net-works". And if you use the geolocation of 
the local network for the IP-address, you can save much effort to reduce 
the "carbon footprint".

But, please remember. Without CO2 there is no live on this planet.

Many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay


Am 21.03.2023 um 10:42 schrieb Greg Wood:
> Hello,
> 
> Built with input from the IETF community, we now have an initial approach and tools for calculating the IETF’s carbon footprint and a strategy for carbon offsetting. For 2023, we will implement this approach with data already available and seek to further improve it for future years. A blog post provides additional information and a link to a full report is at:
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf-next-steps/
> 
> We hope to explore options for improving carbon footprint calculations and to gather additional information about the community’s preferences for carbon offsetting during a side meeting during the upcoming IETF 116 meeting:
> 
> Pacifico North
> Room G301
> 8:30 JST on 30 March 2023 (23:30 UTC on 29 March)
> https://ietf.zoom.us/j/86826219211?pwd=QjhvdkY5YmxIWi9YeE9iMzFReFh3dz09
> Meeting ID: 868 2621 9211
> Passcode: ietfco2
> 
> Details are also available on the IETF 116 side meeting wiki:
> 
> https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/116/sidemeetings
> 
> Further discussion is also encouraged on admin-discuss@ietf.org mailing list (and reply-to for this email has been set to that list).
> 
> Please feel free to contact me directly if I can provide additional information.
> 
> -Greg
> 
> –
> Greg Wood
> Director of Communications and Operations
> IETF Administration LLC
> ghwood@staff.ietf.org
>