Re: Consultation on *revised* IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020

Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Wed, 03 June 2020 20:54 UTC

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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: Consultation on *revised* IETF LLC Draft Strategic Plan 2020
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On 3 Jun 2020, at 9:26, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> - Saying "LLC strategy closely aligned with the strategic
> objectives of IESG, IRSG and IAB" still indicates a fundamental
> misunderstanding IMO. Those bodies cannot, collectively, have
> an agreed set of such "strategic objectives" at any given
> moment in the sense meant here.

Surely there's a way to express that the LLC should make sure that what 
they're planning to do, even in the long term, stays in line with what 
the IESG, IRSG, and IAB say they're planning to do, over whatever term 
they happen to be planning for today. That's not controversial, is it? 
Can you propose some text?

pr
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