Re: How IETF treats contributors
Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> Mon, 30 August 2004 21:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: How IETF treats contributors
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I'm suggesting that due diligence requires that Jim Miller should be contacted. Also, Paul Vixie appears to have done no work, except to suggest that Jim Miller thought of the idea before it was written down an posted to the DNSEXT Namedroppers list by David Green. It was David Green, not Paul Vixie, who wrote it down the earliest version we presently have. Since Vixie did not formulate the idea, nor make any detailed writing on the subject that I see, I don't know why he would be given special recognition. --Dean The messag On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Ted Hardie wrote: > At 4:55 PM -0400 8/30/04, Dean Anderson wrote: > > > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-marid-core-03.txt > > > >http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2002/msg00658.html > > > >The idea came from David Green, and Vixie says it originated from Jim > >Miller in 1998. Vixie had little or nothing to do with it. Why the draft > >claims the earliest known work is due to Vixie is unclear. > > > > --Dean > > Elided below is the actual draft, "Repudiating Mail From". The citation > is to the earliest known work (in other words, the earliest place someone > wrote down a solution based on this idea). If you would like to suggest > to the authors of marid-core that Jim Miller ought to be cited as the source > of the idea from which Vixie's work was derived, I'm sure they will > consider it. > Paul Vixie should still be cited, of course, as many people worked off of > his formulation of the idea; so should Hadmut Danisch, for the same reason. > > The main point to be made, though, is that these are all contributions to > the IETF's collective work on the problem, and should be seen as such. > regards, > Ted Hardie > > > > > > >========================================================================== > > * To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org > > * Subject: Re: Mail-Transmitter RR > > * From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com> > > * Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 18:16:37 -0700 > > * In-reply-to: Message from David Green <green@couchpotato.net> of > >"Sat, 01 Jun 2002 20:49:48 > >EDT."<Pine.LNX.4.44.0206012045470.8349-200000@david.couchpotato.net> > > > > > >> I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I couldn't find a working group that > >> is working on dealing with spam, so this is the closest match I could > >> find. I know this is in no way related to IPv6 or anything else you guys > >> are working on, but it is an idea I had involving the addition of a RR > >> type. If this is not the right place to be sending this, any pointers to > >> other working groups/forums would be greatly appreciated. And I appreciate > >> all of the hard work you guys are doing... My idea is attached (domauth.txt) > > > >In 1998, Jim Miller suggested this. A few weeks ago, I wrote the > >following. Comments are welcome. > > > >========================================================================== > > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Ted Hardie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Paul Vixie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Marc Blanchet
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Ted Hardie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors william(at)elan.net
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Christian Huitema
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors John Day
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Clint Chaplin
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Thomas Gal
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Nick Carter
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Olaf M. Kolkman
- RE: How IETF treats contributors Scott Bradner
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Vernon Schryver
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Paul Vixie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Paul Vixie
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Hadmut Danisch
- RE: How IETF treats contributors ned.freed
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Dean Anderson
- Re: How IETF treats contributors william(at)elan.net
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: How IETF treats contributors Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: How IETF treats contributors ned.freed
- Re: How IETF treats contributors grenville armitage