Re: List moderator action
Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 30 April 2026 16:41 UTC
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From: Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2026 17:39:19 +0100
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Subject: Re: List moderator action
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On Wed, 29 Apr 2026 at 10:23, Simon Josefsson <simon= 40josefsson.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > The same advice could be given to the policy makers and moderators of > this list. What is the goal of banning DJB from making these posts? > In this case, my goal is to avoid continued disruptive derivative rights claims, as defined by IESG Statement on Clarifying Derivative Works Rights <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/>. If DJB posts to the list without such a notice then it would be allowed through, unless of course a different community-defined line is crossed. > I don't understand what the moderators hope to achieve here. It seems weird that the moderator action does not even cite what policy grants > them the authority to make their decision. > It's my fault for not being clear about that when acting. Let me try to remedy that now. RFC 3934 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3934.html> gives WG chairs the ability to restrict posting for 30 days following disruption and warnings. IESG Statement on Disruptive Posting <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-iesg-statement-on-disruptive-posting-20060217/> extends the RFC3934 power to administrators of non-WG lists. RFC 9245 <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9245.html> grants the moderators administrative authority over the ietf@ietf.org list. IESG Statement on Clarifying Derivative Works Rights <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-derivative-works-rights/> defines which derivative rights claims are disruptive. I hope that makes it clear? Chris
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