Re: Registration open for IETF 114

[Keith Moore <[e-mail]>]

On 5/9/22 17:59, John Levine wrote:

> Could you give us a specific dollar limit for a reasonable price?
This is going to vary a lot from one person to another, but offhand I'd 
say that $1000/meeting for hotel and entry fee combined (not including 
travel) is a good goal for meetings in North America.   (I didn't say a 
strict limit.)
> Also, what counts as near? The IETF hotel is a block from the suburban
> commuter train station (that's the name of the station) so people
> could commute from anywhere on the SEPTA rail system.

This is also going to vary from one person to another.   For a Vancouver 
meeting I once stayed at a hotel 20 blocks from the conference venue, in 
the winter (uphill both ways :) and considered that a reasonable 
compromise.    But it did mean that I couldn't really leave the IETF 
meeting and go back to my room to take a break.   It's much nicer to be 
closer than that.

> The location also has the advantage of being less-than-plane distance
> for a lot of people in the eastern U.S.

Yes, that's true (even for me, maybe).   But such high hotel costs are 
enough of a barrier to participation that proximity might not matter.

It used to be the case that IETF leadership and administrative folks 
understood the need to facilitate low-cost in-person attendance, and in 
general to have as few barriers to effective participation as possible.  
And sure, one can still participate remotely and even get a fee waiver 
to do that.  But I did say _effective_ participation, and that's much 
more easily done face-to-face.   Especially after two years of global 
pandemic.

Keith