Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Tim Chown <tjc.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 04 June 2020 12:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: Registration details for IETF 108
From: Tim Chown <tjc.ietf@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2020 13:28:44 +0100
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> On 2 Jun 2020, at 22:25, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> I think this bit is where our disagreement is most clear:
> 
> On 02/06/2020 22:16, Ted Hardie wrote:
>> But somebody has to be the stuckee for the decision on the money side of
>> that, and at the moment it is the LLC. 
> 
> The move from zero to non-zero is not "on the money
> side" as the status-quo involves no fee. (Ignoring
> the exception that will be IETF108.)
> 
> FWIW, this discussion is convincing me more that
> the LLC definitely ought not be setting such policies.

I agree with this, though the IESG may have come to the same conclusion if tasked to consider the matter.

As it stands, WG chairs can presumably schedule interims in place of a slot at IETF 108, if they wish to maximise virtual participation, and avoid clashes with other IETF 108 sessions that may draw important contributors away.

Tim