Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.org
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 10 November 2016 13:53 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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--On Wednesday, November 09, 2016 21:55 -0800 S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote: > Hi John, > At 16:10 09-11-2016, John C Klensin wrote: >> That said, let me make an alternate suggestion. > > I was contacted two or three times over the last seven months > about an issue. Within the context of the experiment there > hasn't been any noteworthy discussion over the last few months. That is consistent with the point I was trying to make. Part of what I understood you to say was that the role, as currently defined, was taking up too much time as compared to value and your and Melinda to suggest that there weren't a lot of cases in which it was likely to be particularly effective. I think there is still potential value in the general concept and in mechanisms that were lighter-weight and more about focusing discussions, reducing repetition, and educating participants than the Sergeant at Arms procedures. If so, or we want to carry out _that_ experiment, the right next step is to reduce the workload to be more proportionate to both need and acutal value. That said, the one thing I wish you had done but didn't (and may not have had the mandate to do) was to post those summaries with enough confidence, and presumption of community backing, to be able to say "these subthreads have been noted, continuing to post on them without adding anything new will be considered disruptive and turned over to the Sergeant at Arms". regards, john
- Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.org IETF Chair
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Melinda Shore
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Melinda Shore
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… George Michaelson
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… John C Klensin
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… John C Klensin
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Dave Crocker
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Stephen Farrell
- RE: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… Christian Huitema
- Re: Please welcome the facilitators at ietf@ietf.… S Moonesamy