RE: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments
"Wes Beebee (wbeebee)" <wbeebee@cisco.com> Fri, 28 March 2008 18:43 UTC
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I would think that any license for RFC code should meet two requirements: 1) It should be usable by anyone in the open source community (compatible with any open source/free software license). 2) It should be usable by anyone in any corporation who sells a closed source product. That way, we can ensure interoperability between open source and closed source implementations. Note that these requirements greatly constrain the form that the license should take. - Wes -----Original Message----- From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Margaret Wasserman Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 2:30 PM To: Ray Pelletier Cc: Simon Josefsson; Joel M. Halpern; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: IETF Last Call for two IPR WG Dcouments Ray Pelletier wrote: > The Trustees adopted the Non-Profit Open Software License 3.0 in > September 2007 as the license it would use for open sourcing software > done as work-for-hire and that contributed to it, at that time > thinking of code contributed by IETF volunteers. See: http:// > trustee.ietf.org/licenses.html > > Is it clear that the contributions contemplated by these documents > would require a different treatment? Disclaimer: IANAL, and I apologize if I am misunderstanding something about the license you referenced, but... It seems to me that the "Non-Profit Open Software License 3.0", while fine for the source code to IETF tools, places more restrictions and more burden on someone who uses the code than we would want to place on someone who uses a MIB, XML schema or other "code" from our RFCs. For example, the license places an obligation on someone using the source code to distribute copies of the original source code with any products they distribute. Effectively, this means that anyone who distributes products based on MIBs, XML schemas or other "code" from RFCs would need to put up a partial RFC repository. Why would we want that? Margaret _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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