Re: the old fellowship program, was Wow, we're famous

Marc Petit-Huguenin <> Thu, 15 April 2021 14:30 UTC

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On 4/15/21 7:06 AM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>     I am more and more convinced that, instead on counting on some centralized way to attract new people and then get complaints when they do not stay, maybe there is a better way would permit to achieve our goal in a more distributed way.  I do not think that group mentorship for the IETF is working -- I tried at a previous company, and none of the mentorees are still participating, so that's not the way.
> One idea I had, which I mentioned to Lars when we chatted after the Nomcom selections, was an "invite a friend" program. If you come to the IETF, and you "sponsor" a colleague, then they get reduced/free admission. Of course, all sorts of details to be worked out there.  But I hoped it could encourage distributed diversity. Especially for junior engineers, you can keep travel and lodging costs low :)

That could help, although I am not sure that going to one or more IETF meetings should be an immediate goal for the kind of mentorship I am talking about.  Reading RFCs, reviewing I-Ds, reading mailing-lists and learning to listen should come first.  That would take care of the potential tourists so attending an IETF would be the next logical step.  But I must say that the IETF did not help there by making itself in some aspects indistinguishable from a travel agency...

Marc Petit-Huguenin