Re: Evolving Documents (nee "Living Documents") side meeting at IETF105.)

[Keith Moore <[e-mail]>]

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> On Jul 18, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Ted Lemon <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>> On Jul 18, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Keith Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Yes, and I’ve repeatedly said I could see optimizing in corner cases..  But I think it’s a rare WG that doesn’t have any potential to adversely affect other interests.
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> Another way to look at this is a well-known cognitive bias: “I am right.”   If you look at what a working group is doing and don’t understand it, there is a tendency to think they don’t know what they are doing, and that you know what they should have done.   This bias is frequently wrong, and I’ve seen it turned against good work numerous times.

That argument applies equally well to itself.

This is silly.  I’ve lost count of the number of WGs I’ve seen for which I did understand what they were doing, and did understand how they could harm other interests.  And in general Last Call is too late to fix those problems.  I agree with Brian that that’s not a description of _every_ WG, for the reasons he stated.  But as long as we’re talking about process in general, the discussion needs to consider the potential for tussles and how to manage that.