Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Mon, 30 November 2020 16:15 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: tom petch <daedulus@btconnect.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
Thread-Topic: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:15:18 +0000
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So you do it because something went wrong awhile ago, and downloading "source" avoided the problem and now it's ingrained into your workflow.

I'm not criticizing, after all our whole industry works that way. :)