Re: why v6 still isn't ready, was IPv10

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Sat, 31 December 2016 23:18 UTC

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>>> It isn't. So what? If that's your requirement, run DHCPv6. Your
>>> Android users can complain to whoever it is that supports Android.
>> 
>> for some silly reason, my customers don't think they pay me for
>> blame shifting.  they just want things to work.
>
>Yes. So not implementing DHCPv6 might be a self-defeating decision
>by an operating system developer, don't you think?

Hmmn, let's take a look at smartphone OS market share (per IDC for
3Q2016)

Windows Phone  0.3%
Apple iOS     12.5%
Android       86.8%

It appears that not implementing DHCPv6 is the key to world
domination.  Next question, please?

R's,
John