Re: How do they select people

[joel jaeggli <[e-mail]>]

On 3/6/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> At 08:44 06-03-2013, Michael StJohns wrote:
>> I would suggest that it's probably time to re-convene the "how do we 
>> select people" working group.  Given the number of issues - recall, 
>> IAOC, this, ineligible others  - we've encountered lately, I don't 
>> think just cutting and pasting a new RFC over 3777 to patch holes 
>> makes sense.
>
> There are some issues which may have to be addressed at some point.  
> Patching holes creates an incomprehensible BCP.
>
> There are some interesting details in RFC 3777.  I don't know whether 
> they have been exercised.  Anyway, the question is about "how do they 
> select people".  It has been mentioned previously that:
>
>   "One former chair pointed out that the NomCom moved pretty quickly
>    from a model where a random sample of the community selects
>    leadership based on personal experience to a model where the random
>    sample of the IETF is expected to survey a large and increasing
>    percentage of the total community in order to select leadership."
>
> And:
>
>   "It is possible for either the Nomcom or a confirming body  to wedge
>    the process in a way where it cannot proceed."
>
> One item which is not mentioned is that public lynching of candidates 
> should never be encouraged.
Or the nomcom unless you want to insure that the pool of volunteers 
shrinks in the the future.
> The Nominating and Recall Committees have the latitude to get the work 
> done.  They are supposed to get the work done. When the selection 
> process reaches a point where a working group slot is necessary to 
> poke at people who have accepted to work for free, is there something 
> wrong.  When an impossible event turns out to be possible, is there 
> something wrong?
>
> Regards,
> -sm