Re: IETF LLC & IETF Participation from USA-sanctioned countries

[Fernando Gont <[e-mail]>]

On 4/3/21 17:45, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 3/4/21 3:16 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
> 
>>> On 4 Mar 2021, at 21:03, Keith Moore <[e-mail] 
>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it makes sense to work on the issues that actually seem to be 
>>> addressable before working on the issues that do not seem addressible,
>>
>> But you’re not doing that, Keith.  You are proposing a solution (e.g., 
>> rehoming the LLC or its parent) without exploring the problem first. 
>>  Have you a single example of where the LLC home was even an issue?
>>
> I won't speak for my co-author, but I'm not proposing anything. I'm just 
> trying to get a picture.

Same here.


> And as much as I empathize with the desire to 
> be free of US government control, I have no assumptions that it would be 
> easy or even feasible.

FWIW, I'm not, either.

For the most part, I'm still trying to understand how sanctions 
would/could apply to participants.

i.e., I wished someone could shed light on this:

* Are participants from sanctioned countries or organizations allowed to 
participate in mailing-list discussions, and e.g. publish 
Internet-Drafts, or RFCs?

* Could they join fwf meetings? Could they join online meetings?  If 
not, is the limitation associated with payment of the fee, or with 
something else?  Would a fee waiver "solve" this?


Without answers to these basic questions, it's hard to 
understand/evaluate the problem, let alone try to mitigate it.

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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