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Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

"Scott Lawrence" <scott.lawrence@nortel.com> Mon, 30 November 2009 20:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)
From: Scott Lawrence <scott.lawrence@nortel.com>
To: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
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On Mon, 2009-11-30 at 18:50 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> writes:
> 
> > Simon Josefsson writes:
> >> There is no requirement in the IETF process for organizations to
> >> disclose patents as far as I can see. The current approach of only
> >> having people participate, and disclose patents, in the IETF is easy
> >> to work around by having two persons in an organization doing
> >> different things: one works on specifying and standardizing
> >> technology, and the other is working on patenting the technology.
> >
> > How can you practically avoid the first person knowing about it?
> 
> Make sure (through confidentiality agreements) that the second one do
> not talk with the first?  Putting them in different continents helps.

Not relevant in this case - the participating individuals were named on
the patent applications as inventors.  It would be hard to convince a
judge that they didn't know...

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