Re: Telechat reviews [Re: Tooling glitch in Last Call announcements and records]

["Murray S. Kucherawy" <[e-mail]>]

Hi John,

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 2:01 PM John C Klensin <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification.  Seems entirely reasonable with one or
> two qualifications.  First, if you (and/or other areas) are doing
> things that way, the review needs to be posted to the Last Call list
> well before the Last Call closes out so there is time for people from
> the Area and the broader community to comment on it.   Second, if the
> posted end of Last Call date is unreasonable or unattainable for some
> reason, I'd hope the responsible AD could be notified of that early
> in the Last Call window -- at least no later than a week before it is
> closed -- rather than, e.g., after the close date.  That would permit
> actions, if needed, to be taken without things looking like a game of
> "Gotcha" with the AD and WG and/or author(s) responsible for the
> document.
>

For what it's worth, in my time on the IESG, I haven't found the need to
manage this vigorously.  If there's a directorate review I'd really like to
have, I have the discretion to wait for it before scheduling the document
onto a telechat even though Last Call has ended.  If the review has come in
but it provokes discussion, I have the discretion to wait for that
discussion to resolve before moving forward.  If we're talking about a
document that isn't one of mine and a review comes in from my area review
team raising something on which I'd like to dive deeper, I can use DISCUSS
for that (so long as I am diligent about clearing it once the discussion is
had, of course).  That's been my strategy for a while now and it's never
raised a complaint, which (so far, at least) includes the document you're
talking about here.

The thing I used to determine if the review has come in is the
datatracker.  I will check the last-call list too, but the datatracker
provides a nice snapshot of which reviews have been requested and which
have come in, and is usually where I start when checking on a document's
status.

Just to keep this all public: For this particular document, I have pinged
the assigned directorate reviewers to ask them to upload their reviews ASAP
on this document.  As I said elsewhere, I might be fine advancing a
document missing a couple of directorate reviews, but not all of them.  If
they don't come in soon, I'll reach out to the review team chairs to ask
for reassignments.

Lastly, I would definitely appreciate a notification (automated or
otherwise) when a directorate review is going to be late.  Right now all
the tracker tells me is "not done", which could mean "not done yet" or
could mean "don't hold your breath".

-MSK