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RE: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC

Terry Zink <tzink@exchange.microsoft.com> Thu, 03 November 2016 17:30 UTC

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From: Terry Zink <tzink@exchange.microsoft.com>
To: "dmarc@ietf.org" <dmarc@ietf.org>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC
Thread-Topic: [dmarc-ietf] IETF Mailing Lists and DMARC
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>> Perhaps people can go to Outlook.com? What happens if they go to DMARC 
>> p=reject? Everyone can go an sign up for yet another domain?
>> 
>> That just kicks the can down the road, but eventually that can will 
>> take no more kicks.

> And then developers can move to fastmail.fm; there are quite a few mail providers, after all.  
> And I would expect market forces, combined with mail providers who aren't trying to send 
> official bills to consumers that can be easily phished from the same domain as their customers,
> such that there will probably be at least one mail provider that will meet the need of developers 
> and other people who need traditional mailing lists as they have been implemented for decades.

The average Internet user doesn't understand DMARC. The average person on an Internet mailing list doesn't understand DMARC either, and even the average tech person on a mailing list doesn't understand DMARC. All they know is that their mailing list doesn't work, or that they have been unsubscribed. Only people who work on DMARC understand DMARC.

Asking the average person to switch their email address just so that they can participate in mailing lists isn't a solution.

--Terry

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