Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 06 February 2020 19:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2020 08:14:36 +1300
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Alissa, how will liaison with the RFC Production Center be managed? xml2rfc is not just an IETF tool, and it's in the middle of a complex deployment process with known discrepancies between the documented and implemented versions of the v3 syntax, not to mention some very tricky issues around SVG support. Regards Brian On 07-Feb-20 07:32, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Hi Michael, > >> On Feb 5, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote: >> >> >> IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org> wrote: >>> I'd like to introduce a new volunteer team that has been created in the >>> General area: the Tools Architecture and Strategy (TAS) team. >> >> I think it is a really good idea to organize this. > > Great! > >> I wonder if you considered just creating a WG in the general area? >> What would seem to let the tools team leverage... the tools. >> But, I guess you can create groups that aren't WGs based upon the links below. >> >>> It is not the role of the TAS team to implement, maintain, or manage >>> the operation of individual tools. Those responsibilities remain with >>> the IETF tools team. Once TAS team guidance documents become available, >>> the IETF Tools Project Manager (currently Robert Sparks) will establish >>> plans and workflows to align ongoing and future tools development with >>> the guidance. >> >> I believe that the team will mostly produce plans, and those plans will not >> be in the form of RFCs, and probably not even in the form of IDs. > > Right, and that’s a good reason to have a team rather than a WG. Also, for the time being it’s meant to be a fairly small group to be able to progress quickly. Many of the topics within the team’s purview don’t necessarily benefit from a consensus process, same as the tools team itself. > >> >>> The TAS team is expected to consult widely with the IETF community, to >>> draw on best practices from the software development industry and open >>> source communities, and to evolve its guidance over time as practices >>> change. The team's online presence resides at: >> >>> Datatracker page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/tools-arch/about/ >>> Mailing list (only open to members, with a public archive): tools-arch@ietf.org >>> Github organization: https://github.com/ietf-team-tools-arch >> >> May I suggest that one of these people be designated as the liason to the >> WG-chairs list? And another as the liason to the EDU-team? > > As with EDU, we’ve got a bunch of WG chairs in the team, so I think keeping the lines of communication open should be straightforward. > > Thanks, > Alissa > > >> >> -- >> ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ >> ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ >> ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ >> >> > >
- IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team IETF Chair
- Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team Salz, Rich
- Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team Michael Richardson
- Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team Alissa Cooper
- Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Tools Architecture and Strategy Team John Levine