Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 01 April 2016 10:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho Details
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John, On 01/04/16 01:28, John C Klensin wrote: > However, I think > there has been a significant breach of community norms and > expectations about openness, consultation, and transparence. I agree that requiring registration of remote attendees without having announced that was a mistake. I agree with those who've said that it might be reasonable to require remote attendees who want to be in the meetecho queue-thing to have registered. But even so, that ought be a thing gets announced ahead of time. Personally I doubt that such registration is really needed even for the queue thing, but I'm willing to believe there may be an anti-DoS benefit there somewhere. That one can ask questions in the jabber room without registering for the IETF meeting is IMO just fine.) So yeah, I think someone (I dunno who) made a mistake. I expect it's not fixable for this meeting, but can be fixed for next time. Having an easier registration experience for those who do want to register as remote attendees is also something to fix. > I > also don't know if that failure was by "the community selected > committee members" or if some staff member is making decisions > without adequate supervision, but it is a problem either way and > I hope that whomever is involved will take the situation > seriously, explain the source or reason for the disconnect to > the community, and evaluate (along with the community) whether > they really want to do whatever job they are doing. That last is just over-reaction and nowhere near justified. I figure someone made a smallish mistake, nobody died, it can be and will be fixed. IMO taking the situation seriously requires us to not over-react in such ways. Cheers, S.
- Re: Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho De… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho De… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho De… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [95all] Remote Participation for IETF 95: Mee… Mauricio Esteban
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… John C Klensin
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Ray Pelletier
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Lucy Lynch
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… John C Klensin
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… John C Klensin
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Melinda Shore
- Re: Remote Participation for IETF 95: Meetecho De… SM
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… joel jaeggli
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… John C Klensin
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… John C Klensin
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… John C Klensin
- Re: [Recentattendees] Remote Participation for IE… Stephen Farrell